Black Doll, White Doll: Same Study, Different Generation, Same Results
Posted on 24. Jan, 2007 by John Fife in Race, Real History, Top Stories
The posted article is from a research study late last year. Because of its content, I not only find this study to be noteworthy, but also newsnet14-worthy!
NYC – A short film by a New York City high school student asks how far our society has come in its attitude toward race since the 1940s.
In her film, “A Girl Like Me,” Kiri Davis recreates a famous 1940s experiment conducted by Dr. Kenneth Clark that studied the psychological effects of segregation on black children. Including Video:
In Clark’s test, children were given a black doll and a white doll, and then asked which one they thought was better.
Overwhelmingly, they chose the white doll.
Davis asked 4 and 5-year-old kids at a Harlem school the same question in 2005. She found the children’s answers were not that different.
In Davis’ test, 15 of the 21 children said that the white doll was good and pretty, and that the black doll bad.
Clark concluded that “prejudice, discrimination and segregation” caused black children to develop a sense of inferiority and self-hatred.
The experiment also influenced the Brown vs. Board of Education decision, which outlawed school segregation.
Davis, who was 16 years old when she made the film, said the results of her experiment surprised and frustrated her.
In the powerful film, Davis asks a little girl, “Can you show me the doll that looks bad?”
The girl immediately chooses the black doll.
“Why does that look bad?” Davis asks. “Because it’s black,” the girl responds.
“Young student’s documentary leaving audiences stunned”
SEE VIDEO>>>
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The Doll Experiments by Clark:
The Clarks’ doll experiments grew out of Mamie’s master’s degree thesis and yielded 3 papers between 1939 and 1940. They found that Black children often preferred to play with white dolls over black; that, asked to fill in a human figure with the color of their own skin they frequently chose a lighter shade than was accurate, and that they viewed white as good and pretty, but black as bad and ugly.[1] They viewed this as evidence of internalized racism caused by stigmatization.
The Clarks testified as expert witnesses in several school desegregation cases including Briggs v. Elliott, one of the cases that were later combined into the famous Brown v. Board of Education, the case in which the U.S. Supreme Court officially overturned racial segregation in public education. According to Woody Klein’s Toward Justice and Humanity: The Writings of Dr. Kenneth B. Clark, Scholar of the Brown v. Board of Education Decision, this was the first time the Court ever admitted social science studies as hard evidence.
Kenneth Clark advocated several different methods of improving schools in black ghettos, and in 1964 persuaded the Johnson administration to back his ideas with $110 million in federal funding.[2]
Doll Experiments by Kenneth Clark Wikipedia>>>
I was inspecting a Section 8 (welfare paid) apartment project in Houston in 1982 and inside one of the wrecked apartments was a photograph of a White child angel located in the center of one of the walls. The photo was place and maitained as if it was a picture of God. All around was incredible filth but this image was in a place of honor.
Even the little nigger kids know they look like savage little monkeys. They have yet to have enough “kill Whitey ” on ZOG run television, to fall for the idiocy of their so-called equality.
Well I just watched the video. I’d need some more facts before I’d actually make a conclusion but it seems that if you take a bunch of kids from a high crime black neighborhood they will chose the white doll because they know White neighborhoods are more civilized. I would like to try the same experiment on black kids raised in white neighborhoods and compare them to black kids raised in black neighborhoods. My guess is that black kids (with black parents) raised in White neighborhoods would have the highest rates for choosing the black baby.
If I’m right it would be bad for White neighborhoods because the leftists would say that blacks must live in white neighborhoods to build their self esteem.
bunch of fuckin savages!!!
When i was attending highschool there was an assignment for a parenting class where you would take a baby doll home that had a computer chip in it that would keep a record to see if it was taken care of. There was roughly ten dolls four of which were black – my school was 98% white – yet i noticed there was an overwhelming amount of WHITE students who WANTED to take a BLACK baby. My point is that the new MTV generation of white kids in america have a some sick desire to want a black baby, i dont know if it’s a sense of white guilt and they feel as if they need to take care of blacks or what? Everyday i feel more and more disconnected with american society, we have done a complete 180. blacks want whites, whites want blacks. WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON!
Dustin
High school kids are known for wanting to get a rise out of people.
How many of these girls will marry blacks men? Not many I would imagine. But maybe I’m wrong.
All of your past comments are from a bunch of fucking trailer trash, ass holes that probably live in a society of blue collar factory working, coal mining, burger turning, tattoo wearing, no high school diploma or education worth commenting about, pale skinned, never had a fucking tan, never been outside of little town America, living in a fucking shack, babies making babies, parents teaching children HATE world. GROW the fuck up you IDIOTS. Do something with your life besides spewing your fucking hatred. Your blood is the same color as everybody elses. RED, you fucking NUMBSKULLS.
Dave.
As much as i agree with you about attention hungry teenagers, the people i talked about wanting the black doll, were allways seeing black men all threw out highschool, some of them even have half-black children now.
This wasnt just a case of rebeling kids, it was a forecast of things to come. And the fact that four out of ten of the dolls were black even though the school was 98% white raises more questions about the state of our nation. It also reminds me of how every year the one black kid in the school would be voted for by a majority of the white students to be on the homecoming/prom court (usually both).
We just watched the film in my sociology class in college and I could not believe what I saw. When the little girl says the black doll is the bad doll and then is asked which one looks like her and she wants to say the white doll, it was quite distrubing. If you think about it however, everyday we say things in “normal” conversation that may make the little kids think that about them selves. Just look at the media and advertisements let alone little kids movies (all pretty things in the movies are white) White magic/Black magic.
I am currently doing a paper over the socialization of young kids ages 0-6 and how they percieve race, and how is changes or doesn’t change between generations. Let me know if you have any additional information or commints would be greatly appericated. Thanks
Dave,
In the video it did say that different economic status were looked at. I agree with wanted to know which pick which doll.
Dave,
I live up in Minnesota and I don’t know if it’s different here, but white girls WANT black men, and vice versa. It’s probably that ridiculously huge black cock or something. Fuckin gross. And the black guys KNOW that the girls of their race look like gorillas so NOBODY wants them.
I’m disgusted at the comments I see on this page. This experiment conducted by Clark is noteworthy as said above, but none of the comments seem to be addressing such topic but rather focus more on the color of our skin. I must say I’m proud of 82070 Comment from Anonymous but spraying profanity across your comment does not solidify what you’re trying to say. Aryan Anger and Gunner obviously lacks the education to make proper judgments about this topic and I’m appalled to see how a country whose based on “Equality” separates and degrades it’s fellow citizens in such a putrid way. It is not the color of our skin that decides what our destiny in life are but what is inside of it whether we be white, black, yellow, or brown. We should understand and see what our country has involved into and the breeding of discrimination within our nation should cease to exist if we want a peaceful society in the future. Little kids (I cannot imagine grown men writing such comments) your mothers would be ashamed of what you wrote. If no one can provide educated comments with logic and reasoning I suggest that they take their comments and leave it elsewhere. Hate with reason, not with stereotypes.
Now, I wonder what would happen if one were to add another doll of another color. Perhaps Yellow to symbolize chinese ethnicity
It would be possible that the research done was biased because it does not state how many children were of white or black ethinicity or possibly neither.
There also looms the question as how having children pick dolls symbolize discrimination? One would be able to hold up a wad of “playdo” in the color of white and a “Transformer” action figure colored black and ask the children the same question and I think the “Transformer” action figure would win with the children deeming the “Playdo” as bad because it is “White”.
This is not a country based on ‘equality’ as you suppose. its based on ‘all MEN are created equal’. At the time of the writing of that statement, blacks were not considered ‘men’, or the founding fathers would have been more specific in their writings, by saying ‘all WHITE men are created equal’. Why on earth would you interpret blacks to be included in what the bill of rights has to say, when when it was written, blacks were considered nothing more than farm equipment?? like a cow, mule, or oxen, so was the black person. They will NEVER be equal to the White man. Equality is a farce. the only reason that some blacks in this world are doing ANY good is through mixbreeding and White European education. You people who buy into the big jewish lie of modernism and diversity and equality are no better than the stupid porch monkey nigger thats only capable of ‘monkey see, monkey do’ abilities. “well, if a jewish book and jewish TV and jewish news tells me that, then it must be the truth.” Dumbass!!
Flexn488,
You make very good points, but your rage is clouding your message. I stand with you brother rock on, but your message is harsh and to the average joe/jane they are now scared and running as far away from the ” evil racist Nazi” as possible. You have every right to be angry just direct your anger so as you sound intelligent. Carry on and keep up the good fight.
Freedom14
Thats funny, People are always asking me why I’m so mad. I’m not mad, it’s just me. The previous post made by me had no ‘rage’ or ‘anger’ in it. At least not from my view point. Others on the outside of my head might, and obviously do, think that was written with rage and anger. Not at all, I TRY and keep my rage and anger under control and off of this site.
James,
According to your logic, you might as well say “well, more people think black cars are cooler than white cars, therefore the whole experiment is flawed”. Playdoh and Transformers, like cars, don’t visually represent a person. Dolls do. There is a big difference. Kids with dolls treat the dolls like a baby of their own. They don’t do that with Playdoh and Transformers. Surely you can see the point I am making.
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Everyone else,
Notice that when it suits a Red’s purpose things are one way (white women like chocolate because they secretly crave black penis and chocolate is brown), but when it doesn’t it’s the other way (I’d be willing to bet kids would choose the black Transformer over the white playdoh, so what’s your point?).
The sample is too small to determine anything, but I have these questions:
Were the children’s interviewers black or white?
Has this test been done in Africa or any other place where there is minimal contact with whites?
Solutions have surely been false: more education to raise black self-esteem. After all, the subjects were babies. They can hardly have studied any history at all.
Prof. Carr of Howard U claims there is no problem with black culture, yet black children receive must less positive reinforcement than white children. Problems of self-esteem, it seems to me, begin in the family.
At any rate, is it possible that children the world over will prefer the white doll over the black doll for reasons which we do not yet understand, but which have nothing to do with racism or low-self-esteem?
And what if the children cold choose from among a white doll, a black doll, and an alligator? If they prefered the alligator, what would that MEAN?
What a sad statement most of these posts are. I’ll keep it simple (as a non-religious person) by saying that I am truly frightened by the stupid and sad statements made by so many. I wish for many of you a moment of light and maybe, just maybe, a glimmer of understanding of what it may be like to walk in another person’s shoes. PLEASE America, We are all in this together, the more we read, think & discuss the stronger and more resilient we will become. We will fight those who want to bring us down only by coming together, pushing aside our differences and working towards our common goal. Reinstating AMERICA as place of pride and the superpower (both in support and might) that it once was. Bless this country, our children deserve the very best we can give them! THINK
My post comes late in a long succession. What’s fun for me though is to be able to post during what is turing out to be an election in favor of a black man. It’s only October, but it’s looking good for now. Fate will tell.
I am hoping that the election of Barack Obama will change these findings forever. How lovely that little girls will now have a woman like Michelle Obama as first lady to look up to.
I am, incidentally, literally disgusted by some of the posts on this site. How very very sad.
I am shocked and utterly appalled at some of the posts here. As it was stated before, your personal racism, prejudice, bigotry, and hatred, have nothing to do with the topic. i feel a deep sadness in my soul that my children, by beautiful black babies do not believe themselves to be beautiful.
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As to flexin488 and all you other racist niggers. (Yeah a nigger is someone ignorant, not just black. So y’all have been acting like niggers. Type and curse like ignorant niggers too. How ’bout dem apples!!=P) WE as a people know what your fore fathers meant by “all men are created equal” but think, if only for once in your life, where would you be with out black people? This country was founded on the backs of my ancestors. They picked the cotton that became the main source of income for a new nation. The white man wasn’t gonna do it. with out slaves, America would still be under control of the British. Modern times. A black man created that stop light that kept your dumb behind from getting hit yesterday when you ran it. The reason you are not hand washing all your clothes is because a BLACK person out fed up with lye eating away at their skin and invented the washing machine. When the birds pooped on their clothes, they dryer followed. The toilet you crap in was invented by a black person. The refigerator, automatic gearshift, cellular phone or hairbrush. The mail box, pencil sharpener, Super Soaker water gun (that gross over $180 million dollars) and the world’s fastest computer-peaking at 3.1 billion calculations per second-were created by the minds and hands of Black inventors. The Gas Mask that saved so many lives during the chemical war=fare of WWI was invented by a black man! STOP AND THINK! WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOUR ANCESTORS NEVER BROUGHT OUR, UGLY GORRILLA SELVES FROM AFRICA! OHHHH! If only our black children knew that they would say that the black baby was evil! You outta be thanking us niggers. I, myself, have to embrace my culture more as I don’t want to claim them with the way they act today. BUT me as A BEAUTIFUL, BLACK, INTELLIGENT, young lady cannot shun them for what they’ve been taught but help them. of course all men are not created equal because if they were then the world would be boring. We were created equally different.
And no, I do not hate white people. I love them. My anger, not hate, is individually dealt out not broadly cast because of stereotypes and prejudices. As Christians we MUST LOVE EVERYBODY!!!! I John 3 chapter. Read it all. But I don’t have to like or tolerate your behavior. Just be thankful that the rest of my school can’t find all you ignorant people, b/c you’d be GONE!
I thoroughly agree with ‘Powerful, dangerous, A smart black woman’. I grew up in Lake Oswego, a place that was nicknamed “Lake No-negro” because it was originally founded to be all white society. No blacks, no jews. I’m one of the only jewish kids in my school, and only four kids are african american. When I was in preschool, there was only one boy in my class who was black, named Ischmael. We didn’t know what to think of him, because he was the only black kid we knew. He had a funny name, he talked differently, looked differently, and acted differently. Ischmael was mentally challenged, but we didn’t know that; we thought all black people were like that. One day, a kid told me that black people have yellow blood, and I (being a gullible four-year-old) believed him. When you’re four years old, you believe all sorts of things, like that if your television set gets too hot, it’ll blow up. If it wasn’t for my best friend Nicky, (a half black boy) whom I met in elementry school, I might have developed rascist ideals and the lack of intolerance that has influenced many of the commenters before me. Black people (and lets put an emphasis on PEOPLE) are just as valuable as anyone. I thought we were all past this matter. I thought we had learned that we are all equal. Apparently, I was wrong.
Error: I said lack of intolerence
What I meant to say, of course, was lack of tolerance.
If you recall, it was lack of tolerance that started the holocaust. Seven Million people killed. Think about it.
This isn’t what ya’ll were talking about but I lost my job to the Argentians, while these dirty want to be jigs laugh because they have cum breath! MYquestion is”WHEN ARE THE TRUE PEOPLE OF THIS SO CALLED UNITED STATES GOING TO JOIN THIS LAWYER<JUDGE, COP LOVING WORLD AND WAKE UP LIKE WE DID AT LITTLE BIG HORN?
As i was reading some of the more racist post I was surprised. Not by the level of straight up stupidity but the fact that those wrote them are even capable of reading and writing at all.I whole heartedly believe that only cowards express such intense hatred on an online blog. You simpletons say what you want from the privacy of your home computers and still You hide your identity behind some seemingly clever, but not at all screen name. News flash racist like you are a dime a dozen. None of you say anything substantial to back up or support your laughable oppinions. Racist have been around for a long time. You would think atleast one of you would come up with something new.Have you not a single thought or idea of your own.
Probably not, it might fry your tiny brains to admit perhaps you’re the animal. For civilized humanbeings know
better.I recommend you get with it because times are changing and you can either change too, or get left behind.
Tasha, Your writing.
Lord girl, your grammar and punctuation is awful.
@ A Friend, I think the site you are looking for is http://www.jdl.com / heartwarming stories of my favorite goy.
@ Tasha, Word? Yo ma, before you come up in here talking your nonsense, learn to spell before calling others stupid and ignorant. It does not help your argument by looking stupid. You know what I’m saying? Furthermore, blacks are cowards too, they just hide behind the law and often the trigger of a gun or knife pointed at a white person and also attack one white person in groups of five or more. You forgot to mention that for some strange reason. Whats with spelling oppinions? You must have been thinking about that song “Down with opp”? Or maybe you mugged a white person for that extra P? You just straight up popular psycho babble libtard yo, word, you just stupid yo. For my white brothers and sisters, the previously mentioned, was actually me speaking black to the she boon above.
@ Powerful, dangerous, A smart black woman, I think the last half of you babble “Just be thankful that the rest of my school can’t find all you ignorant people, b/c you’d be GONE!”, constitutes under the patriot act as a threat. Apparently, NOT THAT SMART, huh.